newer engine swap (Expedition)?
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newer engine swap (Expedition)?
has anyone toyed with the idea of a drivetrain out of say a wrecked Ford Expedition, 5.4L with the 6 speed automatic?
1971 F250 Camper Special, family owned since 1972
1983 Cherokee, last of the big ones, bought in Italy, family owned since 1998
1965 Corvair Corsa Convertible, 140 engine, 4 speed.
HE guides my path, forgives me when I stray and lights my life
1983 Cherokee, last of the big ones, bought in Italy, family owned since 1998
1965 Corvair Corsa Convertible, 140 engine, 4 speed.
HE guides my path, forgives me when I stray and lights my life
- basketcase0302
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Re: newer engine swap (Expedition)?
I'm pretty sure I'd seen this over on the "Fixem your way" or "bumpside" Fakebook group.Zorm
has anyone toyed with the idea of a drivetrain out of say a wrecked Ford Expedition, 5.4L with the 6 speed automatic?
Just like how airboats have evolved using the same fuel injected engines I see the hardest and most expensive, (to which my new airboat plans include) is the ENGINE MANAGEMENT or EOC required to control fuel/spark mixture.
There's guys running fuel injected Eotech engines in the airboat world I'm following that have every single control mounted that the engines had in the vehicle, (ethanol sensors/O2 sensors/etc) that to me is just overkill!
It's an old Navy saying to: KISS
Keep
It
Simple
Stupid!
Following...
Jeff
http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 22&t=46251
SOLD-71 F-350 dually flatbed, 302 / .030 over V-8 with a "baby"C-6, B & M truckshifter, Dana70/4.11 ratio, intermittent wipers, tilt steering, full LED lighting on the flat bed, and no stereo yet (this way I can hear the rattles to diagnose)! SOLD!
Many Ford bumps / one 76' EB / and several dents through the years.
A lot of "oddball" Ford parts collected from working on them for 34 years now!
2008 Ford Escape 4 x 4
http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 22&t=46251
SOLD-71 F-350 dually flatbed, 302 / .030 over V-8 with a "baby"C-6, B & M truckshifter, Dana70/4.11 ratio, intermittent wipers, tilt steering, full LED lighting on the flat bed, and no stereo yet (this way I can hear the rattles to diagnose)! SOLD!
Many Ford bumps / one 76' EB / and several dents through the years.
A lot of "oddball" Ford parts collected from working on them for 34 years now!
2008 Ford Escape 4 x 4
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Re: newer engine swap (Expedition)?
yep retired Navy Corpsman, KISS is good. May just spend the cash on one of the sniper or fitech FI/carbs
1971 F250 Camper Special, family owned since 1972
1983 Cherokee, last of the big ones, bought in Italy, family owned since 1998
1965 Corvair Corsa Convertible, 140 engine, 4 speed.
HE guides my path, forgives me when I stray and lights my life
1983 Cherokee, last of the big ones, bought in Italy, family owned since 1998
1965 Corvair Corsa Convertible, 140 engine, 4 speed.
HE guides my path, forgives me when I stray and lights my life
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Re: newer engine swap (Expedition)?
I've seen a lot of 4.6L Crown Vic swaps, and one Coyote, but never a 5.4.
I'd like to take the 3.5L out of a '16 F150 and put it in a Bump though. Love that engine/trans.
I'd like to take the 3.5L out of a '16 F150 and put it in a Bump though. Love that engine/trans.
too many Fords, no where near 'nuff time.
or, money.
or, money.
- basketcase0302
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Re: newer engine swap (Expedition)?
There's a guy on the "fixem your way" FB group that's running one in his bump on road courses, (he has "A--1" can't remember the correct name custom linked suspension) in the Atlanta area.=tsherry
I've seen a lot of 4.6L Crown Vic swaps, and one Coyote, but never a 5.4.
I'd like to take the 3.5L out of a '16 F150 and put it in a Bump though. Love that engine/trans.
Find him and you'll find ANY answer to cramming the 3.5 as he also tunes/does his own engine management.
Jeff
http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 22&t=46251
SOLD-71 F-350 dually flatbed, 302 / .030 over V-8 with a "baby"C-6, B & M truckshifter, Dana70/4.11 ratio, intermittent wipers, tilt steering, full LED lighting on the flat bed, and no stereo yet (this way I can hear the rattles to diagnose)! SOLD!
Many Ford bumps / one 76' EB / and several dents through the years.
A lot of "oddball" Ford parts collected from working on them for 34 years now!
2008 Ford Escape 4 x 4
http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 22&t=46251
SOLD-71 F-350 dually flatbed, 302 / .030 over V-8 with a "baby"C-6, B & M truckshifter, Dana70/4.11 ratio, intermittent wipers, tilt steering, full LED lighting on the flat bed, and no stereo yet (this way I can hear the rattles to diagnose)! SOLD!
Many Ford bumps / one 76' EB / and several dents through the years.
A lot of "oddball" Ford parts collected from working on them for 34 years now!
2008 Ford Escape 4 x 4
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Re: newer engine swap (Expedition)?
enough money & time, yeah it can be done. I like the thought of the 6 speed in my 1997 4.6l Tbird. That 4.17 first gear ratio allows a much higher rear gear (lower numerically like 3.08) and still have 1.17 in 4th gear means cruising on highway don't require high RPM. That 6r80 is a sure enough a man as it can handle 1000 HP & 700 Ft-Lb Torque. The control is the hard part. I just paid for a how to guide from Shrader Racing who figured it out the hard way. They made the swap in a 1999 mustang and are almost running 8 second 1320. Very impressive but I just read thru the details and it can be done but you really need to want to because of the wiring adaptions. MIght be easier to get the whole engine, harness and 6 speed out of a 2011-2015 F150 with that trans.and have at it.
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Re: newer engine swap (Expedition)?
Me and my son has a 5.4 expedition and often dream of doing this... swapping motor but not going to crown Vic. I like the old tough twin I beams....
buy'em dirty sale'em clean
get more money for the same
machine.....
My 1967 bump: http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 09#p668209
My 1970 Bump: http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 16&t=50726
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Re: newer engine swap (Expedition)?
Old post, what about a 351W?
1971 F250 Camper Special, family owned since 1972
1983 Cherokee, last of the big ones, bought in Italy, family owned since 1998
1965 Corvair Corsa Convertible, 140 engine, 4 speed.
HE guides my path, forgives me when I stray and lights my life
1983 Cherokee, last of the big ones, bought in Italy, family owned since 1998
1965 Corvair Corsa Convertible, 140 engine, 4 speed.
HE guides my path, forgives me when I stray and lights my life
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Re: newer engine swap (Expedition)?
Or a V10
1971 F250 Camper Special, family owned since 1972
1983 Cherokee, last of the big ones, bought in Italy, family owned since 1998
1965 Corvair Corsa Convertible, 140 engine, 4 speed.
HE guides my path, forgives me when I stray and lights my life
1983 Cherokee, last of the big ones, bought in Italy, family owned since 1998
1965 Corvair Corsa Convertible, 140 engine, 4 speed.
HE guides my path, forgives me when I stray and lights my life