Does anyone know what these go to......update 8-7-2013

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Does anyone know what these go to......update 8-7-2013

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I found them sitting in the bottom of my transmission pan when I changed the fluid. I researched a diagram of a auto C6 and don't see them. :? I'm at a lose, right now the truck doesn't shift into third gear unless I let off the gas to make it go. Engine just revs up until I make it go. Any help would be great.
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Those are your struts (the items that hold the band in place for 2nd gear....) I don't know about 3rd gear, but I'm sure that you do not have 2nd.
Drop the pan again & then drop the valve body...do you have a reference manual ? If not, you will see 2 sizes of bolts when you look at the valve body.......just remove all the larger one's & leave the small one's alone....they are around the outside edge..leave thr 5/16 bolts alone 4 now.
Just loosen each bolt 1 turn to allow the valve body to drop a little & to allow the fluid to drain..Plan on leaving this sit with a LARGE pan under neath until it stops draining....this may take a long time, allow a couple of hours...
The only thing that you have to watch closely is the area where the linkage comes thru the case & the 2 shaft's connect into the valve body
If you have a camera, take a photo of how these fit into the valve body,,,so you can re-install the VB when the time comes
After removing the valve body you will see some form/ remains of your 2nd gear band.....
Get back to me with more info & some photo's of your band & the drum that it was wrapped around
Look on the drivers side of the case outside & see if the band adjusting screw has backed out..it most likely did..
If this screw is tight & in place, your band surface is probably gone & possibly the drum that it rides on is scored.....
Need MORE PHOTO'S & tell me what you see.............Donnie
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Wow! Can I pay you to fix it? I have taken apart a lot of things but never a transmission. Not sure if I'm comfortable doing this. Seriously are you located in az? Thank you very much for the info.
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Sorry, JP.......I'm pretty far away & unable to fix it for you, but I can walk you thru the steps to drop your valve body & replace the band if needed
Providing the drum is not scored up......B4 you throw in the towel, at least drop the valve body & have a look. May not be too bad????
When you undertake some of these minor problems yourself, it can be a great confidence builder if you are successful.
If you can drop the pan, you can drop the valve body, it comes down in one piece & you will need only basic tools & a positive attitude...Donnie
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way to go Donnie!!! your words of encouragement are how some of the best self tought mechanics are made,jp give it a shot you might suprise yourself,Wade
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way to go Donnie!!! your words of encouragement are how some of the best self tought mechanics are made,jp give it a shot you might suprise yourself,Wade
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way to go Donnie!!! your words of encouragement are how some of the best self tought mechanics are made,jp give it a shot you might suprise yourself,Wade
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Donnie wrote:Sorry, JP.......I'm pretty far away & unable to fix it for you, but I can walk you thru the steps to drop your valve body & replace the band if needed
Providing the drum is not scored up......B4 you throw in the towel, at least drop the valve body & have a look. May not be too bad????
When you undertake some of these minor problems yourself, it can be a great confidence builder if you are successful.
If you can drop the pan, you can drop the valve body, it comes down in one piece & you will need only basic tools & a positive attitude...Donnie
Thank you for the encouragement! So here's what I'm going to do for the first time. Since the transmission probably has other parts that will go probably go bad soon I'm going to drop the transmission and have it rebuilt or find a reman. I'll post some pictures when I get to this point. It should be in a few weeks. :thup: Any advice of this project? I know I need a trans jack and taller jack stands.
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Get it up on a set of 4 stand's....drill a 1/8" hole in the lowest corner of the pan to allow it to rain...The builder can braze the hole shut...
Drain the converter....use a pan that will hold at least a dozen qts of fluid........Doing these 2 procedures will keep you from taking an ATF bath.
You will be able to pull it & stay reasonably clean.....While you are under there, spray all the nut's & bolt's with your favorite penetrating fluid.
......................look for an independent builder that understands your trans.........Donnie
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Cool thank you very much sir!
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So I finally have sometime to upload pictures of transmission install. WOW what a job! But overall it went very well. I had to remove both frame supports and exhaust to drop it.
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Lookin good!
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Before you install the trans, make sure that your converter is all the way into your trans...There are 3 things that have to engage, 2 sets of splines & the pump gear's. Make sure that you attach the trans to the engine first then wiggle your converter bolts, you should have between 1/16 & 1/8 inch of clearance between your flexplate & your converter.....DON'T FORGET TO FLUSH YOUR COOLER & INSTALL AN IN LINE FILTER IN THE RETURN LINE.........that is the rear line.......Blowing air thru the lines WILL NOT flush contamination out, but the NEW hot trans oel will.
Ask your builder if he put a magnet in the pan....Whose converter are you using? Don't know, ASK.....there is a lot of $99 dollar specials out there....... :hmm:
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