Which vendor has the best FE motor mounts?
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Which vendor has the best FE motor mounts?
Hi!
I'm looking for new motor mounts, and Dennis Carpenter has only the right side mount. It's made in USA.
Who has the best motor mounts?
Thanks!
-Robroy
I'm looking for new motor mounts, and Dennis Carpenter has only the right side mount. It's made in USA.
Who has the best motor mounts?
Thanks!
-Robroy
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Re: Which vendor has the best FE motor mounts?
I don't know but it got me to wondering if anyone makes a captive mount system like Chevy used. That would be cool to have mounts that never rip apart.
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Re: Which vendor has the best FE motor mounts?
I have the ones from NPD.
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Does NAPA still sell them?
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Re: Which vendor has the best FE motor mounts?
NAPA has part# BK 6021168, but it's $8.50, which just doesn't seem right. The Dennis Carpenter part is $20, which is a little more confidence inspiring.
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Re: Which vendor has the best FE motor mounts?
I would go down to NAPA and check it out!!! But that is just me and spend my extra money on something else. JMHO
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Re: Which vendor has the best FE motor mounts?
Robroy, somtimes the simplest way is the best way. Go down to napa & check them out. Hold them in your hand & see if they are a good piece or just some made in China junk. If they look to be of good quality, go with them. Your not planning on running your truck in the BAJA or rockcrawling the Rubicon trail with it after all!
DC has some good stuff, but most of it is WAY too expensive. They are probably the same as the napa ones except they have a DC stamp on them. These are just old Ford trucks after all. He is making a killing on his markup.
Napa & all the other parts stores still have a good selection of parts for these old trucks due to the fact that so many of them are still on the road.
DC has some good stuff, but most of it is WAY too expensive. They are probably the same as the napa ones except they have a DC stamp on them. These are just old Ford trucks after all. He is making a killing on his markup.
Napa & all the other parts stores still have a good selection of parts for these old trucks due to the fact that so many of them are still on the road.
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Re: Which vendor has the best FE motor mounts?
i got my 429's motor mounts fromm Summit racing and had a fat gusset welded on at the shop. nice and sturdy
of course, this is a heavy 460block in a offroad racing truck so its got to be sturdy. yours dont need to be that sturdy but sturdy is always nice
of course, this is a heavy 460block in a offroad racing truck so its got to be sturdy. yours dont need to be that sturdy but sturdy is always nice
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Re: Which vendor has the best FE motor mounts?
Hey Wes, Matt, and Ryan, thanks very much for your advice.
Wes and Matt, maybe I should just go on down to NAPA and order one to check it out. Unfortunately they don't have these in stock and if I order one, I need to buy it (and I can't return it). But at $8.50 it's a pretty safe gamble even if it turns out to be a paperweight.
Ryan, your motor mounts are awesome! I remember following the thread you started on installing those. Unfortunately Summit doesn't have FE mounts.
Thanks for the suggestions! Any more ideas on places to check?
-Robroy
Wes and Matt, maybe I should just go on down to NAPA and order one to check it out. Unfortunately they don't have these in stock and if I order one, I need to buy it (and I can't return it). But at $8.50 it's a pretty safe gamble even if it turns out to be a paperweight.
Ryan, your motor mounts are awesome! I remember following the thread you started on installing those. Unfortunately Summit doesn't have FE mounts.
Thanks for the suggestions! Any more ideas on places to check?
-Robroy
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Re: Which vendor has the best FE motor mounts?
I have never had anything from NAPA be a paperweight. 8.49 per unit.robroy wrote: But at $8.50 it's a pretty safe gamble even if it turns out to be a paperweight.
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I only had one Ford eat the driver's mount consistently. My Super Stock 67 Mustang. The chassis twisted up and right, the engine twisted away to the right and the left motor mount would last exactly 2 weekends of racing. None of my racing Ford trucks ever broke a motor mount but then because of the difference in weight, the types of racing were different and only the Mustang launched at 8000 RPM with 14 inch slicks.
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Re: Which vendor has the best FE motor mounts?
You bet!!! Any time that I can help out FE Freak like myself LOL...robroy wrote:Hey Wes, Matt, and Ryan, thanks very much for your advice.
Wes and Matt, maybe I should just go on down to NAPA and order one to check it out. Unfortunately they don't have these in stock and if I order one, I need to buy it (and I can't return it). But at $8.50 it's a pretty safe gamble even if it turns out to be a paperweight.
Ryan, your motor mounts are awesome! I remember following the thread you started on installing those. Unfortunately Summit doesn't have FE mounts.
Thanks for the suggestions! Any more ideas on places to check?
-Robroy
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Re: Which vendor has the best FE motor mounts?
Is it true that one mount takes 95% of the punishment because it's being pulled on by the engine? And is that the driver's side mount?
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Thanks again!
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The driver's side takes most but when you pull them both because if you tore one, the other will go on the next driver's side tear. It would show tearing at the metal to rubber interface. On the street probably a little less than 95% because they get weak from oil leaks which make them tear easier. If the engine can lift under torque it is worse.
The racers though are a different story. My 69 GT-C class road racing 396 Camaro broke both sides and the engine was laying on the passenger bottom header flange where as the engine rolled over it got caught on the motor mount base. Both Hooker headers destroyed, fuel lines (2), floor pan torn from the shifter which also was bent and one radiator hose torn off. 620 ft lbs of torque being fed through a Ford Toploader to 3.08 gears. Last the nasty dent in the hood. The safety pressure switch on the fuel log shut down the pumps so no big fire. So much for the Chevrolet built in motor retainers. Lucky it was during qualifications.
The racers though are a different story. My 69 GT-C class road racing 396 Camaro broke both sides and the engine was laying on the passenger bottom header flange where as the engine rolled over it got caught on the motor mount base. Both Hooker headers destroyed, fuel lines (2), floor pan torn from the shifter which also was bent and one radiator hose torn off. 620 ft lbs of torque being fed through a Ford Toploader to 3.08 gears. Last the nasty dent in the hood. The safety pressure switch on the fuel log shut down the pumps so no big fire. So much for the Chevrolet built in motor retainers. Lucky it was during qualifications.
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Re: Which vendor has the best FE motor mounts?
Hey Dragon, thanks for the info and story!
Your story reminds me of why I'm concerned. Although my engine isn't producing >600 ft/lbs of torque, it is rated at 463 ft/lbs at 4,000RPM, and I'm concerned that it'll break motor mounts pretty easily. Especially considering all the things I've heard about FE motor mounts being suboptimal.
Thanks again,
-Robroy
Your story reminds me of why I'm concerned. Although my engine isn't producing >600 ft/lbs of torque, it is rated at 463 ft/lbs at 4,000RPM, and I'm concerned that it'll break motor mounts pretty easily. Especially considering all the things I've heard about FE motor mounts being suboptimal.
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To be honest, my experience over the years with NAPA parts is that I trust them more than the repop places.
BTW, my 390 is pretty stout, and even in my nitrous days, sled pulling, mud bogging, and working the truck every day, I havent broke one. I'd say it made equal torque, and probably closer to 600 ft lbs when I used to hit the button.
Most guys that break them, break old ones, I havent seen new mounts be a problem
If you are really concerned, make up a limiting strap on the drivers side. In the old days we'd use a short length of chain that hung just less than tight from the head to the frame.
However, there are other options if you look around.
On my Mustang, I through-bolt the mounts, which is another option, drill through them with a drill press, and put a lock nut and a bolt, again, just tight enough that it doesnt rattle in the hole, and the mount still has movement. I havent done this on an FE truck, but it is an option, just look close on where you could position it.
BTW, my 390 is pretty stout, and even in my nitrous days, sled pulling, mud bogging, and working the truck every day, I havent broke one. I'd say it made equal torque, and probably closer to 600 ft lbs when I used to hit the button.
Most guys that break them, break old ones, I havent seen new mounts be a problem
If you are really concerned, make up a limiting strap on the drivers side. In the old days we'd use a short length of chain that hung just less than tight from the head to the frame.
However, there are other options if you look around.
On my Mustang, I through-bolt the mounts, which is another option, drill through them with a drill press, and put a lock nut and a bolt, again, just tight enough that it doesnt rattle in the hole, and the mount still has movement. I havent done this on an FE truck, but it is an option, just look close on where you could position it.
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70 Mustang Sportsroof 489 FE, EFI, TKO-600 5 speed, 4.11s
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