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bad timing chain
can i just replace the gears or should i get the entire timing set? what is a good brand and what type should i look at for a stock 360.
72, f-100 ranger xlt, 360-c6, 2wd 84k miles.
77, ford f-150 custom 4x4, 400m-c6 SOLD
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Re: bad timing chain
The whole set never just part. Ford dropped that partial change policy long before I went to work with them
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Re: bad timing chain
yea if its not the plastic gear that goes bed. its usually the chain has streched out if it has metal gears.
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Re: bad timing chain
I installed a "double roller" timing chain on a couple of my FE's. They run great and I have never had one stretch. But yes, replace the whole set. 
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Re: bad timing chain
3 piece set from Napa. Double rollers work well also. Soak the chain overnight in oil before you install it. Helps prevent dry start.
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Re: bad timing chain
I never soak my chains over night. Maybe a little pre-oil. Never had problems, even with roller motors. JMHOfitzwell wrote:3 piece set from Napa. Double rollers work well also. Soak the chain overnight in oil before you install it. Helps prevent dry start.
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Re: bad timing chain
Same here pour some oil and go. I never installed a roller chain that was dry from factory the chains always have some lubricant in the rollers. Now on high spring pressure race motors the chain is oiled and the motor turned slowly by hand a few revolutions to get the lifter, cam and chain coated in oil.
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Re: bad timing chain
Pre-lube the system in that case. Instead of rotating the engine by hand, you can prime it with a drill. Works better and you know everything is well lubed ready to go. And if you are an all out Drag car......Then a Accumulator would be choice. Prime on the spot before ever start! JMHODragon wrote:Same here pour some oil and go. I never installed a roller chain that was dry from factory the chains always have some lubricant in the rollers. Now on high spring pressure race motors the chain is oiled and the motor turned slowly by hand a few revolutions to get the lifter, cam and chain coated in oil.
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Re: bad timing chain
i was just wondering about buying the part since napa has them by part and as a set, but jegs has a roller set for $23 that i might try out since the price seems right. this will be my first time doing anything on a motor except for water pumps and head gaskets. thanks for the help guys
72, f-100 ranger xlt, 360-c6, 2wd 84k miles.
77, ford f-150 custom 4x4, 400m-c6 SOLD
"the existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, sid to himself, "i want to set those people over there on fire, but i dont feel like walking over there to do it"
77, ford f-150 custom 4x4, 400m-c6 SOLD
"the existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, sid to himself, "i want to set those people over there on fire, but i dont feel like walking over there to do it"
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Re: bad timing chain
Do the whole set, they're inexpensive. I wouldn't worry about buying real good ones. A $23 NAPA set will probably outlast your engine if it has already wore out one set.
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I am not into chinese made 23 dollar anything. My stopping point on roller chains is 43.
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my engine is going to last alot longer than my truck so i want somthing good, is cloyes a good brand? its not the roller i was looking at, but it seems decent and will get me by.
72, f-100 ranger xlt, 360-c6, 2wd 84k miles.
77, ford f-150 custom 4x4, 400m-c6 SOLD
"the existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, sid to himself, "i want to set those people over there on fire, but i dont feel like walking over there to do it"
77, ford f-150 custom 4x4, 400m-c6 SOLD
"the existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, sid to himself, "i want to set those people over there on fire, but i dont feel like walking over there to do it"
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so im taking that cloyes is a good brand but sellers use junky gears and the good chains?
72, f-100 ranger xlt, 360-c6, 2wd 84k miles.
77, ford f-150 custom 4x4, 400m-c6 SOLD
"the existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, sid to himself, "i want to set those people over there on fire, but i dont feel like walking over there to do it"
77, ford f-150 custom 4x4, 400m-c6 SOLD
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cool thanks dragon, you have been really informative.
72, f-100 ranger xlt, 360-c6, 2wd 84k miles.
77, ford f-150 custom 4x4, 400m-c6 SOLD
"the existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, sid to himself, "i want to set those people over there on fire, but i dont feel like walking over there to do it"
77, ford f-150 custom 4x4, 400m-c6 SOLD
"the existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, sid to himself, "i want to set those people over there on fire, but i dont feel like walking over there to do it"