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Re: 390 intake swap

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40 to 45 lbs on the rockers and don't torque a Streetmaster to 30 they should not be torqued over 18. I have the datasheet somewhere here. The 2V manifold is 92 lbs without a carb.

Frankenstein wrote:Oh yeah, why the hell did FoMoCo think that this FE intake/half the heads design was so friggin great, just to piss people off?
Nope it is so we could have so many different head styles in the basic casting. 4 styles of heads and manifolds though low and medium heads are so close it matters not. Low riser (T-birds and other low hood design cars), medium riser (most common) High risers (high horsepower motors) and Tunnel Ports( real high RPM racers). CAMMERS do not use standard FE Heads or manifolds.

Yes we have to remove push rods and rocker arms to change the manifold. Well 95% of the FEs built never had a manifold changed.

The short head ports allowed the intake port to be ported easier. And yes the 58 352 was on the race track and winning because of that head design even though Ford never had any official race teams. The 352 was in the hands of racers before the street machines rolled off the production line. The 352 heads with little tweaks could flow better than 428 CJ heads. They worked so good that I carted a set with machined combustion chambers and 427 High riser valves in them across 11 different FE race motors.

The FE is the only engine that has been outlawed in ever major race organization.

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Re: 390 intake swap

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Hey Frankenstein how did the 2 v Holley carb work?
Side oiler FE, see if you can catch me!!!

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It sucked alot of air, drank alot of gas and needed a rebuild but it still started every time and got us from point A to B. After talking to a buddy that is the diehard ford guy of the group I think that I would go with a different carb if I were to keep the 2bbl set up.
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Frankenstein wrote:


...the built slant six that I put in my wifes 48 chevy aerosedan is getting repainted ford red from mopar blue .
The 225 slant six. The second best inline six...right behind the 300 Ford! :lol: :lol: Just givin' ya a hard time! I had a 1970 Maroon Plymouth Duster with a factory floor shift 3 speed. If the quarter panels weren't rusted out I would've kept it. I also had a Dart with a 318. Put a lot of miles on the 318.
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the choke wire goes to the stator stud on the backof the alt. i seen the pic but i dont know if that is the correct stud or not. i am not familiar with the alt studs at all. i never disconnect them unless i absolutly have to. i always pull the alt from the engine before i will remove the wires anyway.
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I have had 2 MOPARS a 73 Fury III with 360 2v that would run 130 all day long and a 66 Dodge 1/2 ton that just got around.

I wrote this poem about that slant six.

Up hill slow
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I regressed :lol:

The 360 was my undercover car when I worked for the Feds. It cruised well and got okay mileage.
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I love the mopar 360s they are great for low end, high end, daily driving, drag cars, stump pullers, and stroker kits.
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just for future reference, some more "printo-leak" pics.
and a link to Victor "Nitroseal" part #'s http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182/th ... ce+Gaskets
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also notice in the first pic the dowl pin. That's for aligning the intake front to rear. Not all have it I don't think but this one does and there's a slot in my Blue Thunder intake for it.
Asfor the RTV for the end gaskets, see the oil on top. This method the alway's seeped for me. I'm back to using cork with a very thin layer of "TheRightStuff" with no more leaks. http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDeta ... yCode=2132
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that dowel is good for holding the end seal in place.
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In the first picture where the RTV on the end seal is all smooth. That tells me the manifold was not clean and dry when it was lowered into place. The RTV would have to be torn, cut and pried leaving a rough surface.
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RTV was allowed to skin. all was clean and dry.
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It needs to hit the sealing surfaces wet. It did not bond.

I lay some on both sides of the manifold surface and the gasket surface so if it does skin the chemical will break the skin and re-bond.
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This is the Fel-Pros I have now.
Intakegaskets&Cat.jpg
So I will coat the outside of the end seals with a rubbed in skin of RTV and when I install them after an hour I will apply more RTV to fill the ends and any imperfections in the surfaces they mount to.

:evil: The cat gets put in the valley pan for that loud roar under full throttle,
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Re: 390 intake swap

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Intake should be installed prior to RTV "skinning" over.
On some of the V6's (2.9 if I recall) in the mid 80's Ford had a campaign to replace the bogus intake gaskets installed on the assembly line. Me and the other line techs center-punched and drilled about 5 or so 3/16" holes about 1/8"-1/4" deep into the aluminum intake along the mating surface where the end seals go. We then filled the holes with Ultra black silicone and laid a bead across the filled holes prior to setting the intake on. Not sure if it really made a difference or not but it was recommended by a 20 year veteran Ford line tech. We never had any comebacks on any of our our warranty intake gask. repairs.
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