inline six c4 possible swap?
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- BlueBleedingGreaseMonkey
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inline six c4 possible swap?
This weekend I'm hoppin my motor up, but the 3 on the tree shifter is getting old. My main question is, will I loose any power going to a c4? I have a c4 and the driveshaft too fit, & I can get a good deal on a torque converter and flywheel.. I'm just wanting some input.. I've never really seen an inline six with a c4. I should be pushing close to 300 ft lbs. Will it hold up too this with a pretty good shift kit / rebuild?
Thanks,
greasemonkey
Thanks,
greasemonkey
Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you.
1970 F100 Styleside SWB 240 4v - 315 hp 23.6 mpg hwy 302 swap in prog. just a dd cruiser for now
1966 F100 Flareside SWB All torn apart, probably getting a solid roller 545 bbf
1977 International Harvester Scout 2 304 727 torqueflite air lockers- hunting truck / mud toy
1970 F100 Styleside SWB 240 4v - 315 hp 23.6 mpg hwy 302 swap in prog. just a dd cruiser for now
1966 F100 Flareside SWB All torn apart, probably getting a solid roller 545 bbf
1977 International Harvester Scout 2 304 727 torqueflite air lockers- hunting truck / mud toy
- j41385
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Re: inline six c4 possible swap?
The 300 I have in my truck came out of an 1986 van originally, and has a C6 auto from that van. As you can see from the video in my signature, the engine is not exactly stock with over 400 ft lbs of torque. The straight 6's in the 60s and 70s to my knowledge came with c4's, so I think it should be ok. I am actually in the process of converting to an AOD transmission so I have 4th gear overdrive.
1968 F100 Took the running 390 out, and installed a Built 300 with AOD.
Engine Video... http://youtube.com/watch?v=2xgYd2u79NU
Engine Video... http://youtube.com/watch?v=2xgYd2u79NU
- BlueBleedingGreaseMonkey
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Re: inline six c4 possible swap?
Yeah, I had that thought talking to my transmission man about it today. What year model can you use a flex plate / torque converter off of?
Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you.
1970 F100 Styleside SWB 240 4v - 315 hp 23.6 mpg hwy 302 swap in prog. just a dd cruiser for now
1966 F100 Flareside SWB All torn apart, probably getting a solid roller 545 bbf
1977 International Harvester Scout 2 304 727 torqueflite air lockers- hunting truck / mud toy
1970 F100 Styleside SWB 240 4v - 315 hp 23.6 mpg hwy 302 swap in prog. just a dd cruiser for now
1966 F100 Flareside SWB All torn apart, probably getting a solid roller 545 bbf
1977 International Harvester Scout 2 304 727 torqueflite air lockers- hunting truck / mud toy
- j41385
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Re: inline six c4 possible swap?
For the AOD?
1968 F100 Took the running 390 out, and installed a Built 300 with AOD.
Engine Video... http://youtube.com/watch?v=2xgYd2u79NU
Engine Video... http://youtube.com/watch?v=2xgYd2u79NU
- BlueBleedingGreaseMonkey
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Re: inline six c4 possible swap?
Yup, I'm pretty much a newbie to these sixes, been around v8s my whole life. Guess I'm really a newbie to Ford transmissions, too . I did some reading last night. I'm going to get the a+ servo, a one piece input shaft, kevlar bands, a gasket kit, a valve body calibration kit (shift kit), and a tv cable from lokar.
Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you.
1970 F100 Styleside SWB 240 4v - 315 hp 23.6 mpg hwy 302 swap in prog. just a dd cruiser for now
1966 F100 Flareside SWB All torn apart, probably getting a solid roller 545 bbf
1977 International Harvester Scout 2 304 727 torqueflite air lockers- hunting truck / mud toy
1970 F100 Styleside SWB 240 4v - 315 hp 23.6 mpg hwy 302 swap in prog. just a dd cruiser for now
1966 F100 Flareside SWB All torn apart, probably getting a solid roller 545 bbf
1977 International Harvester Scout 2 304 727 torqueflite air lockers- hunting truck / mud toy
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Re: inline six c4 possible swap?
300 I-6/C4 works fine. If you want a work-horse I'd find a small-block C6 though; C4 is great for daily-driving/mildly built weekend warriors, but I think the C4's can be a lil' temperamental when used for heavy work... I just swapped a 4.9/C4 into my 79' Super-cab... but I'm still keeping my eyes open for a good deal on a local C6.
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1979 F-100 Super-Cab/Long-Bed Work-Truck [300 I6, C4, Ford 9" Rear]
1993 Ford Ranger, single-cab short-bed [2.3L 4-banger, 5spd trans, 7.5 rear... Full-time Convertable ; ) ]
1972 Ford Mustang [351-Cleve' (being built, still workin' on it), C4 auto, Ford 9" Rear]
1979 F-100 Super-Cab/Long-Bed Work-Truck [300 I6, C4, Ford 9" Rear]
1993 Ford Ranger, single-cab short-bed [2.3L 4-banger, 5spd trans, 7.5 rear... Full-time Convertable ; ) ]
1972 Ford Mustang [351-Cleve' (being built, still workin' on it), C4 auto, Ford 9" Rear]
- papabug71
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Re: inline six c4 possible swap?
BlueBleedingGreaseMonkey wrote: My main question is, will I loose any power going to a c4?
greasemonkey
Yes, you will. The closest automatic to rival a manual tranny that I know of is the GM Powerglide. However, I think a properly built C4 would hold up fine. Key word properly.
Matt
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- j41385
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Re: inline six c4 possible swap?
Other than the Powerglide the C4 robs the least hp of most other automatics. The C6 robs the most hp out of almost any other automatic. I have a C6 as I said above, which is why I am upgrading to an AOD. C6 is Strong as hell, but wastes too much power in my opinion, and lacks an overdrive.
1968 F100 Took the running 390 out, and installed a Built 300 with AOD.
Engine Video... http://youtube.com/watch?v=2xgYd2u79NU
Engine Video... http://youtube.com/watch?v=2xgYd2u79NU
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Re: inline six c4 possible swap?
A c4 can be built to handle 500 HP pretty easily if done right and like said robs the least amount of power of the Ford Automatics.
An AOD is not a great choice either in my mind because the carbed engines loose what efficiency they have by being lugged by the over drive. This is only what I found out by putting one behind a 351w in a 71 F100. I tried all kinds of gears up to a 3.73 and all kinds of tuning I could never got over 13 mpg. I should have gone up to a 4.11 but did not have access to one. That might have helped though. I just didn't want to go that route because I tow once in a while and a 4.11 would be too high on the highway when I towed in 3rd.
I just said the heck with it and went the big block route with a c/6 and 3.25 gears and can knock down 15 mpg. if I drive real easy. Figured gonna get big block gas mileage might as well have a big block
clint
An AOD is not a great choice either in my mind because the carbed engines loose what efficiency they have by being lugged by the over drive. This is only what I found out by putting one behind a 351w in a 71 F100. I tried all kinds of gears up to a 3.73 and all kinds of tuning I could never got over 13 mpg. I should have gone up to a 4.11 but did not have access to one. That might have helped though. I just didn't want to go that route because I tow once in a while and a 4.11 would be too high on the highway when I towed in 3rd.
I just said the heck with it and went the big block route with a c/6 and 3.25 gears and can knock down 15 mpg. if I drive real easy. Figured gonna get big block gas mileage might as well have a big block
clint
71 F100 SportCustom
460 C6. Disc Brake/Power-steering/automatic Swap. 3.00
1986 Bronco 5.0 AOD
460 C6. Disc Brake/Power-steering/automatic Swap. 3.00
1986 Bronco 5.0 AOD