yet again.... power steering

[Captain America]

A local guy is parting out a '71 F100 4x4. It's got power steering. Any reason this wouldn't work on my '67 F100 4x4? I'm after the steering box, pump and bracket. His truck has a 390. Mine is the 352.

[greentruck]

I would not see why not, but I no expert. I put a '76 gearbox in my '72, it did not want to fit perfectly but I was able to make work. I just had to cut away some of the wheel wheel fender.

I am not trying to steal your thread, but where is this truck located? I need a FE 4x4 oil pan. Thanks

[fordman]

sory i skipped this thread yesterday. if it is on a 71 it should fit fine on a 67. the only thing i cant think of that wont fit correctly is the crank pulley onto your 352. the 352 pulley has a slightly different spread on the bolt holes than the 360/390 balancers.

[Captain America]

I would not see why not, but I no expert. I put a '76 gearbox in my '72, it did not want to fit perfectly but I was able to make work. I just had to cut away some of the wheel wheel fender.

I am not trying to steal your thread, but where is this truck located? I need a FE 4x4 oil pan. Thanks

It's in Oregon. He already said he doesn't want to part out the engine, but my neighbor is thinking about buying the 390 for his 2wd F250. I'm sure he'd sell that oil pan. I'll ping you if we buy.

[Captain America]

sory i skipped this thread yesterday. if it is on a 71 it should fit fine on a 67. the only thing i cant think of that wont fit correctly is the crank pulley onto your 352. the 352 pulley has a slightly different spread on the bolt holes than the 360/390 balancers.

Thanks Fordman. I'm unclear on the crank pulley issue. Do I need to swap out crank pulleys as well? Is there a thread somewhere that details the obvious swap issues? I've done a couple of searches, but I'm getting bogged down with a lot of info that doesn't pertain to my F100 swap.

[fordman]

to run the belt on the power steering pump you will need to line up the pump pulley with the crank pulley. if your pulley's done line up in line with each other you will need the correct pulley to line them up with. you will need at leasta 2 groove crank pulley to run the power steering pump. my guess is you only have the one groove pulley on your crank. the crank pulley is part of the power steering system as well as for the charging and possible other systems. t/e etc. if you get his crank pulley you will need the balancer that matches it off of that engine.

to maybe clear this up. you need a crank pulley to run the power steering pump pulley. if you dont have enough grooves you need more grooves. if you have enough grooves then good. it also has to line up with the pump pulley too.

[Captain America]

I get it now. I think you're right... the only thing I have hanging off the front of this engine right now is the alternator. It would need a double pulley. hmmmm... maybe I'm back to the U-Pull to nab every pulley combo I can find. I saw a thread that mentions the fitment issue you describe with the 352/360/390 pulley bolts. How tough is it to make them work? The thread I mention described enlarging the bolt holes to accommodate the slightly larger bolt pattern. Is that copacetic?

[fordman]

i have read that thread too. i don't know what i would do until i faced that situation.

[hazelnut]

Swap out the balencer that you get the pulley from, all FE balencers are the same except the 428 SCJ

[Captain America]

I was dinking around with the truck this morning and happened to notice that it has a double pulley system already. It's currently set up with matching belts around the alternator, crank and water pump. Is this normal, and will it be advantageous to the power steering project?

[Captain America]

the view from above...

[fordman]

for that set up. ford used a third crank pulley out in front of the other two and a pump pulley shimmed out to reach it. doing a power steerign swap is a particular swap. you have to use a matching pulley system so that all pulleys will line up and run correctly. i am thinking the 71 setup may bolt right on except for the crank pulley. it wont fit on the 352 damper. if you were to change all the engine pulleys and damper if would work fine. but when looking for belts or replacement parts you will wnat to look for 71 parts instead of 67.

[Captain America]

Thanks for the info Fordman. Any clue why Ford had this double belt setup? It seems redundant.

[fordman]

the only thing i read and its been awhile. was soemthing about alternator output size. i think. i can only remember one thread and the thread only mentioned something about as we were talking about power steering. i think the one who mentioned it was hawkrod. so if you do a search his posts are the ones to look at. for that subject.

[fordman]

hawkrod posted a picture of the ps setup that you need in this thread. http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... or#p458605