Advice from the 4by experts

[eggman918]

An old truck as an investment is difficult, at the auctions they like original "matching numbers" trucks
those are VERY hard to find .But cool old trucks will sell though I would not consider them "investment quality".I do think that they are financially sound if you can do the maintenance on them,I have owned my Bump for 20 years at a cost to date of $400 a year not counting fuel and oil.Unfortunately the new motor I need will change this figure but it was my fault not the truck's
Driving this truck and the wife's '68 Galaxie enabled us to buy our first house

[mr_josh]

I don't care if you disagree with my opinion, but you are missing the point.

I see your point but I disagree that you'll live long enough to see much return on your investment. You have to really look at the economics of the situation. If you get a mint '67 F-100 4wd 4-speed for free or pennies on the dollar, absolutely, you know that you've got an "investment", because you're absolutely sure that you can flip that truck for considerably more than the cost to you.

BUT, if you -like a lot of us, I think- pick up a truck that needs considerable mechanical and cosmetic work, you can easily put in 10 or 15k dollars getting it up to show status. And "show status" is absolutely where one of these trucks has to be in order to bring home some money. The thing is, if you put 15k bucks in to bringing one of these trucks back to concours condition (probably more than that for concours), you're still going to be hard-pressed to turn it and get that much money out of the sale. Even if you do get the sum of the parts value back out of it, I'd bet when you factor in labor you won't break even

Granted, all of this is me talking about the average guy looking to buy a truck. I realize that there are people out there that are really good at flipping cars, and can recognize just exactly the minimum amount of work that needs to happen in order to squeeze out the maximum profit. If you're one of those folks, more power to you.

Just because it's old doesn't mean it's desirable. There are plenty of cars and trucks built in the '50s and '60s that are worth bupkis now. I can't see that bumpside F-100 4x4s have a special place in the hearts of a significant number of individuals, and THAT in combination with rarity is what makes a classic's value go up; you've got to have some cachet with folks that have $$$ to go along with low production numbers, otherwise you just have an oddball that's not worth much money.

[averagef250]

I don't care if you disagree with my opinion, but you are missing the point. By investment I mean the value is due to go up as yuppies see that trucks are getting popular (thus the Barret Jackson), if you are so inclined to sell it. I am not an investor, I bought mine because I like it and it is practical for my purposes. How did muscle car values go up? People see them and want them. In sunny places, people enjoy showing off their vehicles and usually want something nobody else has... Hence a truck, hence a rare truck, hence something they can out do the others with. The 50s trucks are getting bought up, next is the 60s...

Your logic is flawed. It doesn't work that way. How many bumps have been restored or rodded and sold for a profit? The answer is not many. I sold one for $10K, had $10K in it plus 3 months labor.

[Doug F]

Give it time.

I'm sure the guy who started this post is a little bothered by everyone arguing with me over my opinion...

Someone mentioned "rare" and I gave my opinion. That's it. Now everyone has to give their opinion that mine is bad?

I'm also the only one that actually gave him any kind of info that he was looking for.

[Redcap]

These trucks are, by no means, "rare".

[7DF250]

Heres one to follow if you feel these trucks are an investment, as this seller obviously does:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/1598552112.html

I would wager that he'll be lucky to sell for half of his asking price.

[Redcap]

Heres one to follow if you feel these trucks are an investment, as this seller obviously does:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/1598552112.html

I would wager that he'll be lucky to sell for half of his asking price.

He is 9-10k too high.

[averagef250]

Give it time.

I'm sure the guy who started this post is a little bothered by everyone arguing with me over my opinion...

Someone mentioned "rare" and I gave my opinion. That's it. Now everyone has to give their opinion that mine is bad?

I'm also the only one that actually gave him any kind of info that he was looking for.

My '70 F-250 4x4 is one of 3 trucks. Kinda rare, pretty unusual. It was ordered by Pacific Power in 1969 in thier color, built in Canada with a 300 six, 7700 GVW chassis and transfer case PTO and shipped to the Canadian upfitter Willock to have an articulating joint added behind the cab. Willock modified many Dodge Powerwagons for the US military in WWII like this. Is it worth a ton of money? No. Will it ever be worth a ton of money? No. Will I have the truck until the day I die and enjoy every minute of it? Of coarse! Point is you'll be dead before your F-100 4x4 is worth much more than it's sticker price when it was new.

[greasepit]

I don't know what they will ever be worth .but i do no if i had the money i would buy ever one i could. im like doug they
will sail but its just for the people that really see the tuff look the 68-71 4x4 swb or 2wdrive FORD trucks have. I hope they do. i' ll never say they want .

[Redcap]

Give it time.

I'm sure the guy who started this post is a little bothered by everyone arguing with me over my opinion...

Someone mentioned "rare" and I gave my opinion. That's it. Now everyone has to give their opinion that mine is bad?

I'm also the only one that actually gave him any kind of info that he was looking for.

My '70 F-250 4x4 is one of 3 trucks. Kinda rare, pretty unusual. It was ordered by Pacific Power in 1969 in thier color, built in Canada with a 300 six, 7700 GVW chassis and transfer case PTO and shipped to the Canadian upfitter Willock to have an articulating joint added behind the cab. Willock modified many Dodge Powerwagons for the US military in WWII like this. Is it worth a ton of money? No. Will it ever be worth a ton of money? No. Will I have the truck until the day I die and enjoy every minute of it? Of coarse! Point is you'll be dead before your F-100 4x4 is worth much more than it's sticker price when it was new.

I'd like to see that articulating joint behind the cab!

[fordguy63080]

I agree with what most said, have been driving my 69 4x4 swb for about a year now and get alot of compliments most everywhere I go. Sorry no new pictures still haven't figured this all out but you can go to projects and click on the link and see how this all started,Anyway like you all said it just depends on what people are looking for and what they want to spend...............fordguy