Valve Springs
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Valve Springs
How much lift can you run on stock valve springs in a FE motor ?
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Re: Valve Springs
Short of installing a cam and checking for coil bind an answer would be difficult. You also have to make sure the spring retainer or rotator is not going to hit the valve guide.
I would STRONGLY advise installing the correct valve springs and retainers for the cam you are using as there is more to it than simply can they achieve the lift without bind.
Modern cams in most cases (even mild ones) have much quicker rates of lift than the factory cam and with used stock springs you are probably going to be floating valves at 3500-4000 RPM.
I would STRONGLY advise installing the correct valve springs and retainers for the cam you are using as there is more to it than simply can they achieve the lift without bind.
Modern cams in most cases (even mild ones) have much quicker rates of lift than the factory cam and with used stock springs you are probably going to be floating valves at 3500-4000 RPM.
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Re: Valve Springs
Although I agree 100% with the Duck that you need to check. A good rule of thumb is .500 lift.
Anything above that you are almost sure to have issues, and most every modern cam will be slightly above that.
Anything above that you are almost sure to have issues, and most every modern cam will be slightly above that.
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Re: Valve Springs
I was just curious because some of the RV cams I've seen are over .500
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Re: Valve Springs
What is the true definition of an "RV" cam?
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Re: Valve Springs
It should mean a fairly mild high torque cam (IE suitable for a heavy RV). I reality it is an over used term that really doesn't mean much.390F100 wrote:What is the true definition of an "RV" cam?
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Re: Valve Springs
Any cam manufacturer should be able to tell you if their cam will work on stock springs
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Re: Valve Springs
I would say that "any cam manufacturer can tell you their spring requirement"
Then you need to go see what your springs actually are, 10,20, or 30 yr old springs surely wont have the pressures new ones will, and the cam guy sure doesnt know what you have for springs.
The easiest thing is to measure installed height and buy the right springs and just swap. 50-75 bucks for peace of mind, or drop a valve and lunch a motor
Then you need to go see what your springs actually are, 10,20, or 30 yr old springs surely wont have the pressures new ones will, and the cam guy sure doesnt know what you have for springs.
The easiest thing is to measure installed height and buy the right springs and just swap. 50-75 bucks for peace of mind, or drop a valve and lunch a motor
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Re: Valve Springs
New Valve springs are on the way, although the heads have just been reworked with new stock springs. I'm opting for a set rated for up to .600 lift just to be on the safe side. These are suppose to be as big as you can go without machine work.My427stang wrote:I would say that "any cam manufacturer can tell you their spring requirement"
Then you need to go see what your springs actually are, 10,20, or 30 yr old springs surely wont have the pressures new ones will, and the cam guy sure doesnt know what you have for springs.
The easiest thing is to measure installed height and buy the right springs and just swap. 50-75 bucks for peace of mind, or drop a valve and lunch a motor
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Re: Valve Springs
First good on ya
Second, are they matched to the pressure requirements for the cam?
Second, are they matched to the pressure requirements for the cam?
71 F-100 SB 4x4, 461 FE, Edelbrock Pro-flo 4, 4 speed, 4 inch softride lift, all poly bushings, integral PS, most mods installed since the 80's
70 Mustang Sportsroof 489 FE, EFI, TKO-600 5 speed, 4.11s
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70 Mustang Sportsroof 489 FE, EFI, TKO-600 5 speed, 4.11s
Engine building by-appointment only--30+ years, specializing in strong street pump gas FEs