MLJJONES67 PROJECT CUMMINS put away for winter

mljjones67 · Post by **mljjones67** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:55 pm

So the engine sitting 2" lower is for drive line geometry?
So do i cut the cross member out and make a new one or
fab somethin to the old one? It seems like it would be easier to make a new one out of square tubing, rather than chop up the old one.
What are your thoughts Dustin??

Thanks for all your help!!!!!!!
Very appreciated!!!!!!!!!

averagef250 · Post by **averagef250** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:49 pm

I make a new one. The last one I did I used 1/4" wall 4" square tubing to build the crossmember from. It looked good, but not the factory look I try to shoot for. The next one I do (my 70 hopefully) I'm going to look into building the crossmember from laser cut and broken plate instead of tubing.

Once you get the engine in there you'll see why it will sit where it does. It does sit there for drivetrain geometry, the crank centerline is the same for every engine/tranny you install, but the other reason is that is the only place it will fit. If you raise the engine the head will hit the firewall, the fan will be into the radiator, the transmission top will be above the floorpan. If you lower the engine the front diff will hit the oil pan under full suspension compression. That sucker is very tall and very long.

mljjones67 · Post by **mljjones67** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:52 pm

Thanks Dustin
Will a 1990 full size bronco np205 work? I ask because the guy I was going to get the last one from sold it!
Are they all the same???

mljjones67 · Post by **mljjones67** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:12 pm

averagef250 · Post by **averagef250** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:15 pm

The 205 was used by Ford from 73 to 79, that's it.

mljjones67 · Post by **mljjones67** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:30 pm

Hmm I guess I will be looking else where. I am hoping to hear back from the guy with 78 f-250. I am guessing it has the np205 and d44 hp in it. I am hoping to get the whole truck for about $500 to $600.00.
Will the d44 hp be strong enough for the weight of the cummins?
I got me a free engine lift and stand plus a parts cleaner. The guy owned a mechanic shop and retired. So he is cleaning out a storage unit. I will find out in a week if he has more free stuff for me. He has a nice welder I told him I wanted. man I hope he gives it to me.!!

rjewkes · Post by **rjewkes** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:44 pm

hey mikey,

if you get the whole truck, and don't need it i'm looking for the prop valve. i'd pay ya 25.00 plus the cost to ship it.

averagef250 · Post by **averagef250** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:01 pm

The 78 F-250 would have the 205 in it you need.

The Dana 44 was never intended to support that much weight, but it will. Balljoints and wheel bearings probably won't last as long as they should, but they are easy enough to replace.

mljjones67 · Post by **mljjones67** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:27 pm

ok rj I will let you know.

I guess I better get a d60 then. I dont want to mess with it too much down the road.

mljjones67 · Post by **mljjones67** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:04 pm

Dustin what are you paying for the zf s5-42's I put a want ad out there and got a call on it tonight. What should I expect to pay? I didn't talk to him cause I am at work. But I will in the morning

averagef250 · Post by **averagef250** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:18 am

$300-$500 in good used condition for a diesel ZF is the norm.

mljjones67 · Post by **mljjones67** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:33 pm

Dustin will a 1990 zf behind the 7.3 work?? I have found one for $200. He also has the borg warner transfer case with it. I might be able to get it for less so I am hoping it will work.

mljjones67 · Post by **mljjones67** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:07 pm

Here is some pics of it.

mljjones67 · Post by **mljjones67** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:34 pm

http://www.siliconeintakes.com/index.ph ... 13bbc3731d

mljjones67 · Post by **mljjones67** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:08 pm

I wont be using this one for the 6bt

I will be using this one. As soon as I find the right size bolts to bolt it up!

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