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[460 crew]

70 crew with a 460 C6 D60's front and rear.

[AK F100]

70 crew with a 460 C6 D60's front and rear.

Now there's a BEAST. Nice rig

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I Believe a lot on this truck is out of the ordinary ? was it built like this ? ordered like this? it has 5/8 wheel studs all the way around where all other trucks are 9/16,, Ford # on the tag on rear cannot find in any interchange books will have to look in the Ford Books to see, Front Rear like pointed out is on pass.side has a Napco transfer case,, no numbers ot tag on Front Rear except on Caliper brackets has Ford Stampings,, the emblem is faded but still can see Crewcab Special on it in which what all does that means,, I sure like to find some history on it when I get time or see what tag on door can lead to it

[averagef250]

I Believe a lot on this truck is out of the ordinary ? was it built like this ? ordered like this? it has 5/8 wheel studs all the way around where all other trucks are 9/16,, Ford # on the tag on rear cannot find in any interchange books will have to look in the Ford Books to see, Front Rear like pointed out is on pass.side has a Napco transfer case,, no numbers ot tag on Front Rear except on Caliper brackets has Ford Stampings,, the emblem is faded but still can see Crewcab Special on it in which what all does that means,, I sure like to find some history on it when I get time or see what tag on door can lead to it

Your truck IS NOT a NAPCO conversion. It looks to me someone slapped dodge cab chassis dually running gear under your truck from the pictures you've shown. The power steering you have there is 70's through 90's dodge power steering, the front axle is dodge or GM. The rear axle is either the stock ford single wheel one or a cab chassis dually axle from something else. It is not a dually pickup axle. Dually pickup axles are much wider than that, your rear fenders would be several inches wider per side.

It's kind of neat truck from the functional side of it, but it's very far from something collectible.

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What I like to know is then if its Dodge or GM Then why does it have Ford Rotors/Calipers on it and ordered pads for 79 F-350 to bolt on,, also did not say it collectable just a lot of things have been done and not knowing history on truck makes it hard to know,, ALSO just checked my 1966 F-350 wrecker which has the same width rear that is also a dually that I took the rear out of a 79 F-350 to get away from the 6 lug split rims,, Oh by the way I did not make a claim it was a NAPCO Conversion if you read it I stated it has a NAPCO Transfer case Only,, checked to see any ID#'S On gear box and could not find, if its Dodge or GM on front rear Then where is some Id#'s to identify what it is? All the Fords have seen the rear is on D/S Side

[averagef250]

What you've stated just doesn't make sense. You stated it has 5/8" wheel studs. 1 ton trucks do not have 5/8" studs. Most have 9/16" pre-79 fords have 1/2" wheel studs. If you ordered rotors for a 79 F350 4x4 they wouldn't fit over 9/16" studs unless you drilled them out.

The passenger side front diff and dodge power steering is the big wierd thing with your truck. The BOM number on the axle housing will tell you some history if you look it up. There are some telltale details to tell a dodge 60 from a GM 60 front, but they aren't foolproof since the parts can be switched around or cut off. Dodge 60 fronts have heavy 1/2" thick shock mount tabs welded to the axle that look like they're just cut from flat stock. They also use one short brake line on each side from caliper to the housing then one central rubber line going up to the frame like 1/2 ton fords.

Kingpin 60 stuff is very interchangeable between different makes. Someone could have used a GM/dodge housing with Ford knuckles, brakes and hubs

NAPCO didn't make much by themselves. They usually farmed out the manufacture of thier stuff to other outfits and put thier name on it. The pickup NAPCO t-cases I've seen have been Dana/spicer model 23's. They're the same thing as a Ford model 24 but passenger drop. If the t-case has a NAPCO plate on it it should also have the model number on it and all the later 50's and up NAPCO cases have the manufacturer's name on them as well, just smaller print. To get an approximate age of a NAPCO t-case a good way to tell if it's older than mid-50's or so is the thickness and design of the main housing casting. On a passenger drop 23 the area below the driver's side mounting pad is filled in and squared off and much thicker than the later ones. The later designs look more like a mounting pad connected to the main body with heavy ribs. Alot of NAPCO parts also have the date stamped right in them.

The point I was making about the rear axle is it's not a dually pickup axle. A pickup has a bed on it. A cab-chassis truck does not. For this reason cab chassis dually 1 ton trucks and single wheel 1 ton trucks use the same width axle. Dually pickups use a wider axle so the inside dual has sufficient clearance with the inner wheel well.

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Thanks for the info Dustin like I said a lot of weird parts still trying to figure out these 5/8 studs,, the wheels are a Weld Wheel with a MFG Date of 10/85 that has a 5/8studs all the way around,, these wheels takes a shanked nut with washer thats is 1 1/16 socket and missing one which cannot find which is 4 of the wheels are aluimumm , the 2 inside rears are Ford Stamped Steel wheels then after all the wheels off today found 1 cracked went to a truck place and found one similair that came off a E-350 dually van that took 9/16 studs which fit perfect but then played heck finding nuts that where for 5/8 studs but had to be real wide to be able to get a socket on it in which only found at Napa

[4x4freakfe427]

70 crew with a 460 C6 D60's front and rear.

Sweet truck man. What size are your pitbulls?

[460 crew]

35X14.5X16.5'S I actually took them off and run a set of BFG muds for the road and keep the rockers just for outings.

[4x4freakfe427]

Thats cool. How do you like them? I bought a used set of 39x16.50x15's and had them on my ford for a little while but I have never used them offroad yet. I cant use them on my ford any more because I put in a 79 dana 60 up front and cant run my 15's.

[460 crew]

I love them in the mud and offroad but on the road they started to just rattle the truck to death, sure a balance might help a little but not worth it. On your 15's problem I have hear that grinding down the calipers just a hair you can squeeze the 15 on there as long as there is room to spin freely. Just the other day I had all my tires replaced with BFG's new mud terrains and had to buy a set of 16in wheels cuz the 16.5's are discontinued. So a set of black teflon's and 315's are on there now. I'll get pics soon.

[averagef250]

I'm pretty sure it is not possible to run 15" wheels on ford dual piston calipers. You can run some 15" wheels on GM 3/4 ton single piston calipers with a ton of grinding to the calipers and brackets. I got so tired of grinding the last time I did this that I fixtured the calipers in a rotary table and milled the outsides of the calipers down to the same radius as the inside of the wheels. 15" wheels will not fit 1 ton GM single piston calipers.

On Ford dual piston calipers a 16" wheel has around a 1/4" of clearance if I remember right. That means you'd have to remove a good 3/8" of material from the calipers and mounts to make it fit.

[4x4freakfe427]

You can run 15" wheels on a ford dual piston caliper, but you have to have a custom wheels with a 2" back space and it will clear with no grinding at all. On a chevy dana 60 single piston caliper you can run 15" wheels with 3 1/2" back spacing but you have to grind it down so it will clear. I no Gm 3/4 ton's you have to grind alot to get a 4" back space 15" wheel to clear. I don't want to buy new tires. I will just get some custom wheels to run my 15" tires most all of my mud tires are 15's.

[HillbillyDelux]

By the way, until now never taken the time to say how much I enjoy your posts and input on others, I aalways seeem to learn something from them.

Me too i almost always learn something from u. and im entertained sometimes when people get defensive or try to argue with ur facts

[ChevyToughRebel]

460 WITH C-6 Divorced transfer case,, those pieces on the hood I was told that where installed by a Movie Production Company to carry the weight of Movie Equipment, I know I can stand on the hood with no give

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this is the power steering gear box set up

Had to buy this tag at the Ford Dealership says MEET THE BEAST
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Ha, thats from a freightliner or something similar. I work on those all day. That blue plastic slip yoke/shaft is a dead giveaway.